I was raised in a family of four noisy boys. As we grew up, we became quite opinionated, and often argued, quite amicably but noisily, about religious, political, ethical and a thousand more trivial issues that interested us.
When each of us found girlfriends and eventually wives, they didn’t always find our loud and rambunctious conversations easy.
And it didn’t always stop there. As an idealistic and articulate youth, I found it easy to argue with just about anyone. Fortunately, my wife had good advice for me.
Wisdom to live by
Many years into our marriage, she told me a simple principle I have never forgotten (though not always followed, unfortunately!):
“Just because you know something doesn’t mean you have to say it!”
So simple. I don’t always need to express an opinion, even when I disagree with someone. Each situation is a choice.
I think it is something many of us still need to learn.
Example: Gay marriage in Australia
Most cultures with a christian heritage have viewed homosexuality unfavourably, and until the last half century, viewed homosexuality as a sin, sometimes as an “abomination”.
Almost 50 years ago, I remember a conservative evangelical minister and university chaplain explaining to me that the words used in the Bible described homosexual acts, not orientation, and so orientation should not be seen as sinful. Sometime later, scientific evidence began to indicate that many, possibly most, LGBTQI people were born that way and had little or no choice in their orientation.
So christians began to be more accepting of gays. Most still viewed gay sexual relations as sinful, but a small but slowly increasing number of christians now view gay marriage as acceptable to God.
During this same time period, societal attitudes to homosexuality have changed, much faster than in the church. In most advanced western democracies at least, it appears the majority now accept gay marriage, and are critical of those who oppose it, often regarding them as homophobes. “Love is love!” they say.
Trouble brewing
Cartoonist Gary Larsen drew a number of cartoons with the title “Trouble brewing”, where two mutually hostile ideas or activities were placed in juxtaposition. For example, one had a sky diving school located next to an alligator farm.
The christian and societal attitudes to homosexuality, in Australia at any rate, seem to be a classic case of trouble brewing. There were several warning bells for christians.
Pedophile priests
A recent Royal Commission found many examples of child sexual abuse in institutions – churches, schools, sporting associations, childcare institutions, etc. There were many cases of the abuses being deliberately covered up by the institutions, including churches.
Over 60% of these cases occurred in institutions run by the Catholic Church, and surveys have shown that this is a major cause of mistrust in the church. There were many cases of both heterosexual and homosexual abuse by priests.
So when christians spoke against homosexuality, their words were sometimes seen as hypocritical because of the church’s sorry record on abuse.
The gay marriage political debate
There has been agitation for years to “legalise gay marriage” in Australia, which really meant changing the legal definition of marriage to include LGBTQI marriages. The conservative political party in Australia (ironically named the “Liberal Party”) was divided on the issue, so eventually the government invited all Australians to participate in a postal survey late last year, to establish the majority view.
It seemed that the main opposition to same sex marriage came from christians (though to be fair, Muslims and some ethnic communities were also strongly opposed). The Sydney Diocese of the Anglican Church, one of the largest evangelical church groupings in Australia, donated a million dollars to support the “no” campaign, drawing criticism, even from some of its own clergy, for spending money that should have been used to assist the poor.
Many christians, while opposed to gay marriage on moral grounds, believed that this was a matter where everyone should be free to follow their own beliefs, and christians shouldn’t tell non-believers how they should behave. So many christians either voted “yes” or didn’t vote at all.
In any event, the “yes” vote triumphed 62% to 38% and the government began to draft same-sex marriage legislation. Conservative christians looked to be out of touch with Australian society, and were portrayed by some as homophobic and seeking to impose their will on the rest of Australians.
Fallout from the changes to the definition of marriage
One of the results of the yes vote was a push by conservative christians to get stronger protections for freedom of speech, conscience and religion, to allow them to continue to oppose homosexuality even against “political correctness”.
Freedom of speech is not clear in Australia. There isn’t a definitive statement, as might appear in a Bill of Rights (Australia doesn’t have one), and while it is difficult for Governments to legally stifle free speech, it seems that laws against racial vilification and “hate speech” and fear of defamation may act to reduce freedom to express ones beliefs.
Many conservative politicians and public figures felt that the same-sex marriage legislation didn’t protect the rights of opponents to speak against same-sex marriage or, for example, to refuse to bake a wedding cake for a same-sex wedding or celebrants to refuse to officiate.
Proponents argued that the legislation didn’t affect present freedoms, but opponents weren’t so sure.
Sydney Anglicans try to define what they’ll allow and what they’ll fight for
A recent Synod of the conservative Anglican Church in Sydney addressed these issues, and we have seen three outcomes:
- The church clarified its policy of not allowing same-sex marriages on its property. It said this was intended as a shield against possible discrimination court cases, because the law allows such a discriminatory response when the organisation has a clear policy and belief on the matter.
- Ministers and paid officials of the church are currently required to sign a statement of personal faith (I’m not sure exactly who is or isn’t included in this requirement). It is proposed that an explicit clarification of the church’s view on same sex marriage will be included in this statement. As a result, professional counsellors will be required to offer counselling from within that perspective and apparently all public statements would have to conform. Opponents argued that this edict would prevent open discussion, but supporters say this won’t be curtailed.
- A letter was sent from school principals to the government asking for the new legislation to provide new legal protections which would continue to allow Anglican schools to expel gay students and dismiss gay staff members. The letter, prepared by the church, caused a public relations storm, and several principals either refused to sign it or later withdrew their support for it. Some say explicitly they’d like the provision allowing gay students to be expelled to be removed (it has apparently never been used).
A public relations disaster
Whatever you may feel about the morality of homosexuality and gay marriage, all this has been a public relations disaster for the church in general, and the Sydney Anglicans in particular. Donating in support of the no vote was bad enough, but the recent moves have left many people with a bad taste in their mouth.
I can’t help feeling that the Anglican Church should have more carefully considered the likely outcomes of its various actions, decided which were its most important goals and which points were likely to be counter-productive to what they see as their overall mission, and expressed their views in ways that were likely to cause least offence.
I would judge that the recent actions by the diocese have dug a hole that will be difficult to climb out of. They appear to have brought to public attention issues that may otherwise not have been so prominent, leading to deeper fears and increased vocal opposition in the community and in the press.
Getting used to disappointment
The christian church has had a dominant and privileged position in Australian society for two centuries, even though Australians tend not to be highly religious, and less than 10% of Australians are regular churchgoers. That dominant position has sometimes led to discrimination against minorities such as the LGBTQI community.
It probably won’t do us any harm to be on the other end of public opinion and even legislation. We might learn some humility and better identify with other minorities.
That doesn’t mean I think that christians and churches shouldn’t speak out on issues – in a democracy, we have that right and should continue to use it.
But we surely need to do it in a more humble way. We need to recognise that the way things are said and done makes a big difference to the way the church, and ultimately christianity and Jesus, are viewed.
If the church regards making converts as its highest goal, as the Sydney Anglicans do, acting as the moral police is probably not going to be helpful. And if they believed, as I do, that making converts and serving the community, especially the disadvantaged, are both important, then I think it is still counter productive to be moral police.
If we want gays, and others, to know that God loves them, we need to welcome them and accept them as they are, not begin any relationship from a condemnatory position.
And surely, if christians regard homosexual activity as sin, they need to be as actively opposed to other sins, such as materialism, which Jesus and the apostles spoke out against much more than they spoke against homosexuality (Jesus doesn’t actually say anything about it in our gospels).
I wonder when clergy will refuse to conduct a wedding of someone who is obscenely rich, greedy and materialistic? Would an Anglican school dismiss a materialistic (or proud or jealous) teacher?
Some christians worry that if we don’t speak out on ethical issues, it will seem that we support viewpoints and behaviours that we don’t actually agree with. But christians don’t have to be moral guardians. It is better to speak when we have a position of respect rather then from a position where we are scorned.
In fact, it may be better if we ceased to be moral guardians, and began to show more unconditional love and acceptance of people even if we don’t agree with their behaviour. There may come a time when we need to speak, but it maybe shouldn’t be the first thing people hear. Or the second.
As Mike Pilavachi used to say: “It’s time we stopped telling the world what we’re against and started telling them what we’re for!”
We have a lot of ground to make up if we want people to believe that God’s love is greater than his condemnation.
Just because we know (or think) something doesn’t mean we have to say it!
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Enjoyed your discussion. As always, knowing what not to say of what we know is definitely a challenge for us all. After reading your post the first time I tried to recall what it was that you thought you should not say or not have said, but I guess you didn’t say that. 8>)
Of course the Church should get involved in preventing legislation that will force people to sin. But I think the church should have much less concern just because a law allows people to sin.
The Catholic Church has taught that deliberately thinking lustful thoughts is a sin and can even be a mortal sin – to say nothing of acting out on those thoughts in any way. And just about all churches view adultery as a sin. How many of these churches think Adultery should be outlawed and prosecuted?
The fact that churches seem to be so selective in what sins they want outlawed suggests that certain principles should be established and followed.
Of course Christ lived at times when many horrible things were legal and I don’t recall him signing any petitions or recommending voting one way or another. That’s not to say churches shouldn’t act in the world but I do think we should always clearly acknowledge that the world’s laws are not the only thing that matter to us and what you said – just because we know something doesn’t mean we always have to say it.
I agree that “Just because you know something doesn’t mean you have to say it!” yet in many cases as believers in the Lord Jesus Christ and His teachings we have higher standards, at least we should have.
An example in my life is I come from a family of heavy drinkers, we have lost a few to alcoholism in the past but currently my father, brothers, son, a good friend, and others call themselves Christian but have no problem getting drunk which leads to loud voices and inappropriate conversation, at least conversation you would not expect from a follower of Jesus (notice I did not say Christian). I keep my mouth shut about it but they are easily offended when I do. I have been told not to judge by some of them even though I don’t open my mouth or give them any body language that I am judging them. I just walk away from all the inappropriate language or just sit there trying to be pleasant. I have a beer once in a while and my wife a glass of wine with a meal but that is the extent of our drinking as it is with her side of the family.
When it comes to these outside the body of Christ I seldom if ever share my feelings on issues that people are sensitive to. As a chaplain I have people I am around ask me on occasion questions like; “what does the bible say?” about a certain topic to which I tell them to bring me their bible and I will show them; that way they can decide for themselves, if they do not have a bible with them I asked them to bring it to me or better yet look the topic up online by typing in what does the bible say about (whatever they are curious about). This is a way to avoid conflict that works for me.
Often the next question is; “what do you believe?” about a certain topic. I simply tell them to look up the scriptures, pray about it, and then decide for themselves or look into it deeper of they are not sure. I also ask why my opinion is important to them. I will share with those who are sincere in asking, the majority of them are. Others are looking for an argument.
When asked about the abortion issue I let them know that I look at it as a question to answer and not a spiritual issue. If it can move, has a heartbeat, feel pain, and has its own individual fingerprints is it alive? I also share that is how I determine in my heart when life begins. Then I leave it at that as it puts the ball in their court.I use this logic with other issues as well.
These are ways that I can “know something without having to say it”. Works for me anyway and have never had any issues. It beats how I used to be when I was younger, always looking to prove a point.
Hello and thanks for comment.
:After reading your post the first time I tried to recall what it was that you thought you should not say or not have said, but I guess you didn’t say that.”
Hi Richard, I think this dictum should be considered whenever the church or christians want to tell non-believers what they should think and do, but in this case, I think the world has probably heard enough from us on homosexuality. Further talk will not change anyone’s mind, and more likely antagonise them. I say that without implying a particular position on the rights and wrongs of the issue.
“The fact that churches seem to be so selective in what sins they want outlawed suggests that certain principles should be established and followed.”
Hi Joe, yes, I think this is important. But as well as establishing principles, I think we should be learning to be guided more by the Holy Spirit. Tricky, but important.
“These are ways that I can “know something without having to say it”. Works for me anyway and have never had any issues. It beats how I used to be when I was younger, always looking to prove a point.”
Hi Monte, we are pretty much agreed, and I think your ideas on avoiding confrontation are good. I have come on a journey on this issue too. I am reminded of a line from a very old Bob Dylan song: “Ah, but i was so much older then, I’m younger than that now!”